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JasonGraystone
Jun 4, 2015 7:41 PM

AUDCAD Cypher @ 0.9682s (Bearish) Short

Australian Dollar/Canadian DollarFXCM

Description

If this cypher pattern completes at the 786, we will look to enter this trade for targets indicated.
The X leg is at a nice level of structure so a good place to short.
Comments
kataate
My C leg is the 127 extension of the AB, this seems to be hitting 141.8 extension of the AB extension which invalidates my cypher but its a good opportunity for those who trade cyphers differently
Akil_Stokes
141.8 extension of AB? Interesting, never heard of that before. what made you decide to look at that particular extension during you backtesting. Not judging, just curious
kataate
haha...typing error Akil Meant 1.414
Akil_Stokes
still curious about the 141.4 of AB?
kalong
i thought for cypher, the C pt cannot close beyond 1414 of XA but must at least touch 1272. Btw I am using fib retracement to measure the extension.
Akil_Stokes
you're correct, I was wondering about how you were using the AB like you mentioned? Unless that was a typo
ninjabenja
Can you help me understand your analysis on the pattern as you have it defined? It doesn't appear to meet the criteria for a valid cypher. Here is your chart with what is widely accepted as the appropriate Cypher pattern requirements:
JasonGraystone
Hey, Thanks for the comment. I'm afraid you have either been misinformed on the rules of a cypher pattern or you have your Fib Levels set incorrectly.
Rules as follows;
Once the initial X t A Leg is identified, we can then look for the B leg completion. In order for the B leg to be valid, the retracement must at least touch the 382 but not CLOSE past the 618.
The C Leg is considered valid as long as it at least touches the 1.27 extension from X to A but must not close past the 1.414. In this case, the 1.414 extension is at 0.9566 and the lowest candle closes at 0.9567 therefore it is valid.
For a cypher completion, the D must complete at the 786 retracement of X to C.

It looks like your 1.414 is not set correctly.

I hope this helps.

JG
ninjabenja
Thanks for correcting my correction guys. I'm a victim of a tool which doesn't function properly for the Cypher, but it would seem we should be able to create one that works as it should.
Akil_Stokes
I've seen this before with the "pattern drawing" tool here on trading view. When used it doesn't measure fibs correctly. The 1.414 that is showing, isn't a 1.414 from X to A rather from B to C it looks like
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