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Braintrnsplant
4 months ago
Hi, I'll begin this question log. It seems to me that when the CS breaks the Ks gives a clear sign of trend inversion. Is this signal anyhow meaningful to you?
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Ichimoku_Trader Braintrnsplant
4 months ago
CS at TS, KS or the kumo is just like price at those levels.
You are at support and resistance.

As for trend inversion, remember that in the PanOptic method, the trend is decided by KS not CS. However, in most cases, if CS reaches KS .. KS has already given the signal that the trend has shifted. So CS would be used to gauge the strength of that trend

Thank you
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Braintrnsplant Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
CS at TS, KS or the Kumo is like 26 period forward price: did you mean that?
I suppose that following the kumo in the PanOptic method means understanding when a wave has finished its cycle and another cycle is likely to begin: am I correct?

Thanks a lot
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Ichimoku_Trader Braintrnsplant
4 months ago
I meant that when CS reaches those line then those lines act as support and resistance
As for the kumo, The kumo has multiple usages, one of them is to let you know what is happening at the higher TF
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TomKelley Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
What is TF again?
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Ichimoku_Trader TomKelley
4 months ago
TF = time frame
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TomKelley Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Thx
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TomKelley
4 months ago
Hello, I am new to your group and have enjoyed and appreciate the info and education. Are the parameters you use for the chart the default settings? Or do you use your own? Thx
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Ichimoku_Trader TomKelley
4 months ago
defaults
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Braintrnsplant TomKelley
4 months ago
Only to help a little Ichimoku_Trader who is performing an enormous and extremely appreciated work I take the responsability to answer to your question: he uses normal settings (9/26/52).
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TomKelley Braintrnsplant
4 months ago
Thx
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TomKelley
4 months ago
Also, I do understand from reading your informational slides when to enter an a trade during an existing trend, but I am unsure when to enter a trade if it is a trend reversal. Is it when the KS crosses the kumo( I think this is the cloud)?
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Ichimoku_Trader TomKelley
4 months ago
I have never discussed reversals yet
I will once continuations are finished...
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TomKelley Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Cool. NP. I like your approach and have been trying to gobble up all the info I can. Thx again for the help
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Ichimoku_Trader TomKelley
4 months ago
Great to hear
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TomKelley
4 months ago
Last question for awhile, but what are the differences between level l, level, ll, and level ll signals? There may be more, but I don't remember those in th slides. Thx once more
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MC2016 PRO TomKelley
4 months ago
They are on one of the earlier slides - I can't remember which but in essence are, as I understand it, as follows:
Four levels of signal for trend-continuation strategies where 1 is weakest
1. A change in the colour of candle with good momentum (meaning candle size)
2. A close above / below TS in the direction of the trend
3. As per 2 but supported by a suitably coloured AO bar
4. A turn of the TS in the required direction with price remaining on 'right' side of TS (i.e. above it when buying)
Hope that helps.
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Ichimoku_Trader MC2016
4 months ago
Thanks
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TomKelley MC2016
4 months ago
Big help. Thx
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fatkumo
4 months ago
I've noticed that if you go into a bullish or bearish mode for a trade for ie H1 TF, sometimes you like to confirm with the D1 TF, when you confirm are you looking for Price Action (Price bearish or bullish) to confirm your move or do you look at Momentum on the Awesome Oscillator?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
D1 and H1 are connected. So I work on h1 if I want to trade d1 but not the other way around
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
So you first go on a D1 timeframe and see if a KS method is suitable and then zero in on the H1 timeframe and zero in on the same KS method and take the trade? D
Did I get this correct?
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NextgenDad fatkumo
4 months ago
I'm pretty sure from all I have studied Ichi uses the one hour to trade the daily whats going on on the daily shows just fine on the one hour when you look in the right place
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fatkumo NextgenDad
4 months ago
Can you elaborate please? I'm confused. If I'm doing a h1 trade, should our overall basis be a d1? Such as only go long on h1 if ks shows bullish as well as on the d1??
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NextgenDad fatkumo
4 months ago
if trading 1 hr trade the 1 hr but you can see 3 time frames while you do so. these 3 slide will explain
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and for full info on the over all system start at the bottom of these https://www.tradingview.com/u/Ichimoku_Trader/#search-charts=[EDUCATIONAL and work you way to the top. it will blow your mind and answer your questions a lot more than I can as I am still learning but I cant express to you or anyone else who has questions how valuable taking the time to go through and like every one of these truly is. FREE knowledge that honestly is worth all kinds of $$$$$$$$$$$$. What Ichi Trader has provides for free other people charge outlandish amounts for . Thank you again for all you do Ichi Trader
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NextgenDad NextgenDad
4 months ago
KS= Your Time Frame
TS= 1/3 Your Time Frame
SBB= Time Frame above you

As stated in slide 2

Hope this helps
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fatkumo NextgenDad
4 months ago
Thank you yes it helps but SSB timeframe above you? What's that mean ?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
it means that SSB is showing you the KS on a higher TF.
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fatkumo NextgenDad
4 months ago
I'm going to brush up on this. And if I have any questions will ask. Thanks!
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NextgenDad fatkumo
4 months ago
Oh and I forgot this gold nugget as well
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
First of all, thank you NextgenDad for your answers, great work, great answers and highly appreciated.

Second, When you trade ichi, you do not need to look at multiple TF. Infact I recommend that you do not since you already have the whole picture that you need to make decisions on your chart.

Third, Whenever I trade the daily TF, and I decide that I want to enter into a trade, I will go down to H1 specifically (by specifically I mean not to any other smaller TF) due to a connection between the 2 TF in the form of Twaves which i have not talked about. So whenever you see me go from D1 to H1 I'm actually still on D1 but you just can not see it from my perspective yet.

I hope that, in addiition to NextgenDad comments answers your questions

Good luck
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Thank you for your essiental response.
If you're on the D1 how are you trading the H1?
Twaves? What is that?

If I'm looking to trade the KS and I'm on a H1 do I just wait for a level 1 signal at the KS in the trend direction to enter?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
D1 / H1 thing .. Must know Twaves
Twaves .. maybe later

If you are trading the KS method, then you just enter at static or dynamic KS depending on market strength. So no signal .. just get in
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Which method do you find to be most practical and efficient ? KS?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
The KS method is the base that everything else rides on so until you master that, you can not really call yourself a PanOptician (new word to be added to the English dictionary meaning one who can trade the PanOptic Trading Method efficiently) .. lol
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Lol. I understand.
But when you're trading a TF why do you keep referring to another TF ??
Such as if you're trading H1 TF why are you relating to another TF?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
I'm not
You just think I am
I only trade one TF .. I never mix
But i really can not explain it in a comment so just trust me
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
If I want to trade a H1 and price hits KS when KS shows uptrend do I enter The trade even if a D1 shows a KS downtrend?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
Last time..
I only trade a singla TF at a time. So do the same
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
okay i got that.
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NextgenDad
4 months ago
I know you can see 3 time frames on one chart but to maximize an entry point would you recommend using the 15 min if trading the one hour or just wait on the entry on the one hour to be safe. Thanks in advance
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fatkumo NextgenDad
4 months ago
So if trading the H4, I should jump onto a 15min chart and observe the optimal point to enter, basically if I'm viewing H4 and its at KS zoom in on a 15min and confirm an KS moment there too to enter?
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fatkumo fatkumo
4 months ago
Did I get the jist?
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NextgenDad fatkumo
4 months ago
This I am unsure on and waiting for Ichi's response
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fatkumo NextgenDad
4 months ago
KS current time frame, so if I'm working with an H4 TS would be 1/3 meaning 20min timeframe? So if KS & TS touch it'll be a pretty good point to enter?
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fatkumo fatkumo
4 months ago
Sorry H1*
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NextgenDad fatkumo
4 months ago
That makes sense to me
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Ichimoku_Trader NextgenDad
4 months ago
Moving between TF is not random. You can only do it if the 2 TF are connected together.
I haven't taught that yet..
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narcalen
4 months ago
HI Ichi, What do you think about this analisys?

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Ichimoku_Trader narcalen
4 months ago
I love it.. 2 points:
1. You must keep the buy UNESS there is a reason for the sell
2. Use your kumo as your sell zone
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FerminNunez
4 months ago
Tech. Analysis is not new goes way back to the 18th century ,a Japanese successful trader named Sokyu Homma , invented candlesticks , and based on past price action he found out that he could measure the forces of supply and demand .
At present time there are over 100 indicators that are used to measure these forces, all are derive from price movement although some include volume
Some authors refer Technical Analysis as an art not a Science personally I agree , Tech. Analysis is not an exact Science it is the study of Human Behavior , what it is called
Market Psychology rather than a recipe made up by numbers , which is by large what most people want
Human Behavior is repetitive ,specially where the 2 human emotions , Greed and Fear, are in play . Price moves in trending waves , they expand and contract they are not linear ,sometimes they last
longer or less than expected that's how human nature is , but under this Chaos there is always a pattern , that is the challenge for the Technical Analyst
I think all indicators are useful they serve their purpose
I find interesting your technique based on Ichimoku Clouds using different TF
Sharing Knowledge is always constructive
Thanks






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Ichimoku_Trader FerminNunez
4 months ago
Ok ..thank you
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TAJIR_B
4 months ago
didnt see the new log, so i post it here, sorry :


Hello ichi, what do u think about this:
- Having our chatroom on TV;
- Trades log for panoptic method ideas devolved by the community;
- Webinars (we really need it ).
Thanks
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Ichimoku_Trader TAJIR_B
4 months ago
Whatever you guys decide I support you
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tmugleston PRO
4 months ago
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tmugleston PRO tmugleston
4 months ago
Looking for feedback on going short on the EURUSD (1H TF) if it breaks the TS and we get a level 1 signal...Any thoughts?
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tmugleston PRO tmugleston
4 months ago
Now that I think about it, if it closes below TS, then that would be considered a Level 2.
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
Yes
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
I agree
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
Nice
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Trader77
4 months ago
HI, What is your idea on GBP JPY Please? I saw many ideas talking about sell.
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Ichimoku_Trader Trader77
4 months ago
which TF?
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Trader77 Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
1H
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Ichimoku_Trader Trader77
4 months ago
Yes it is bullish BUT you will need a 300+ pip stop
So if you can afford it .. go for it
I can't...
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Ichimoku_Trader Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
I'm trying to say .. don't do it.
You are going against the market and the risk is tooooo much
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Trader77 Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Thank you for your insight
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tmugleston PRO
4 months ago
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tmugleston PRO tmugleston
4 months ago
Looking for feedback on taking a possible long position. Anyone?
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fatkumo tmugleston
4 months ago
seems legit to me for a long position. Level 2 signal entry possible.
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
Up to now, all this is is just a deep retrace..
So no reason for a long yet. If things will develop, then you can consider it
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
yeah but if a Level 2 comes around then it would be a valid trade right? (as long as KS is up)
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
no
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tmugleston PRO Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
No? What would validate the long position at this point?
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
Actually, the best way to trade this would be with the CS setup since this is a point where we do not really know what will happen
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
Although KS is up, CS does not agree and the picture is currently very weak all in all
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
how does the CS not agree?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
It went back inside the kumo
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
so if the CS is in the KUMO, the trade will not be validated even if a signal 1-4 comes along?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
no. This is a setup and setups come before normal trading rules.
when CS meets SSB, the best way to trade would be with the CS setup
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
okay got it.
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tmugleston PRO Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Ahhh. Ok, so CS needs to be outside of kumo in order to start considering trading the trend?
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
It is not a rule. But when we see a deep corrective structure, it becomes almost critical. In other situations it is not important. So it depends on what we are looking at
Complex and advanced. Needs lots of knowledge about lots of things
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tmugleston PRO Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Glad I asked. Thanks!
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fatkumo tmugleston
4 months ago
A very lucrative setup to learn...

FYI
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
Thanks for the help..
Highly appreciated
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
great
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fatkumo tmugleston
4 months ago
I guess you had something better than what you originally thought. lol
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tmugleston PRO fatkumo
4 months ago
Lets hope so!
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fatkumo
4 months ago
Question relating to opportunities:
If you can't find any opportunity on a certain TF such on H1, do you continue to scan other TFs such as H4 then D1?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
The PanOptic Method uses a time cycle element that guarantees you can find a trade on every timeframe.
The question becomes, which is the most efficient with the most potential
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fatkumo
4 months ago
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power hour?
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fatkumo fatkumo
4 months ago
to short? feedback needed
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
I like your chart for a short but i would take it in the kumo somewhere
good catch
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
THANKS!
But in the Kumo meaning in the cloud? i thought i wasn't supposed to enter while price was in the cloud/kumo?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
Don't trade in the kumo only if you are trading my KS method. Otherwise, it is fie to do it
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narcalen
4 months ago
Whay do you think about this trade??
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Ichimoku_Trader narcalen
4 months ago
It's counter trend
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TAJIR_B
4 months ago
Ichimoku_Trader webinars
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TAJIR_B TAJIR_B
4 months ago
panned idea, i didn’t follow the House Rules. bad me, sorry for that
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tmugleston PRO
4 months ago
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tmugleston PRO tmugleston
4 months ago
Looking for feedback on my attempt for a setup. Thanks.
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
I like the entry although I woul go a bit higher with the sell zone...
I don't like the TP
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tmugleston PRO Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Hmmm, ok...I try again. Thanks.
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tmugleston PRO tmugleston
4 months ago
*I'll try again.
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
sorry
good try though
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tmugleston PRO Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Ok, here is a question...Is there a possible setup in this chart? I don't want to make something out of nothing.
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
The setup is nice but sell deeper as there is divergence
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tmugleston PRO Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
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tmugleston PRO tmugleston
4 months ago
2nd Attempt...
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
Also, the target lines are not right
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
lol
I meant raise the lower line of the sell zone not the upper. If you raise the upper, the trade is not good any more
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tmugleston PRO Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Haha, I wondered! I was really feeling uncomfortable with how hight that was.
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
yep
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tmugleston PRO Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
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tmugleston PRO tmugleston
4 months ago
3rd Attempt...
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tmugleston PRO tmugleston
4 months ago
whoops, CL is not in the right spot.
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
please drop the target lines
make it a Zone 3 sell
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tmugleston PRO Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
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tmugleston PRO tmugleston
4 months ago
Attempt 4...And probably final attempt, because I've posted probably way to many time on this subject. Sorry.
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Ichimoku_Trader tmugleston
4 months ago
nope...
sorry
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fatkumo
4 months ago
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short on level 2?
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sabu8086
4 months ago
from which zone shall we expect a trend reversal in E/U?
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Ichimoku_Trader sabu8086
4 months ago
not sure
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fatkumo
4 months ago
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Is it advisable to trade even if KS is in Kumo and price candles are out?
this seems like a good Shorting opportunity for a level 2 signal
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
This situation is telling you that the momentum is weak. So what you should do if you want to trade is to sell deep
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
So KS in Kumo means hold off until its out and price is near KS after retracement and a possible Level 2 signal entry would be fine ?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
I did not say that..
I said it means that momentum is weak so buy a deeper retrace
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
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is this a better example to go in on a Level 2 signal?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
I would take a level 4 here ;)
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
gotcha, seems like you really like deep retracements and cheap prices!
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
It depends on the market strength
This is a weak market
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Ichimoku_Trader Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Actually, I was talking about the previous one
This one is not bad but the level 4 signal is much safer although more expensive
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
so if it was strong you wouldn't be too concerned with deep retracements.
Also, what gives you the indication that it is a weak market?
Is there a general index or some sort?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
1. the weaker the market deeper the buy
2. there is a slide about strength and weakness
3. Your first question showed KS inside the kumo. that means very weak momentum and thus a very weak market
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
How I Trend Trade (4)

yes?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
yes
this is the basic
apply the same principle to the lines with each other and price against them
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
loud and clear thank you
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
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Long
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Long

feedback plesae
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
agree on all
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Thank you good sir!
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
;)
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
I'm watching these carefully, but it seems as if it's going opposite direction and somewhat close to Stop Loss...
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
what are you referring to?
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
referring to the 3 charts AUDJPY EURGBP GBPJPY
they all became losers, did i choose them incorrectly?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
I'm not sure
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Seems like they all went sour. Did i choose them incorrectly?
They all seemed to become losers.
What did i do wrong here?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
Not sure
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
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How is it possible that out of 3 good entries i got stomped out?
Is there something i did wrong?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
well, your entries are really bad .. that's all
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
i waited for somewhat a deep retracement. What more should've i have done??
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
they all had Level 3 Signals to my understanding.
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
how were they bad please?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
actually all 3 entries were KS25 trades
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
except the first actually
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
I thought its good entry for when the TS line pivots into direction of trend and then Enter at KS?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
Please, you have to read my material...
When KS is flat for 25 candles, the trade becomes KS25 setup
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
Okay, KS hallucinations consist of the line being flat right?
because i'm counting the "flat" portion of the line, and it's not amounting to 25 candles?
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
I got it found the most important piece
Hands on Training of Rule #5 section 4
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
;)
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fatkumo
4 months ago
General question, is there a currency pair you wouldn't trade?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
4 months ago
yes
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narcalen
4 months ago
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narcalen narcalen
4 months ago
Can we consider this Chart a KS25?
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Ichimoku_Trader narcalen
4 months ago
I would look for a sell
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narcalen
4 months ago
A CS BO on EURJPY
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Ichimoku_Trader narcalen
4 months ago
nope
CS setup has to come after a trend. In ranges, do not consider it
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narcalen Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
OMG, What a big mIstake!, thxs
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Ichimoku_Trader narcalen
4 months ago
no problem
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narcalen
4 months ago
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narcalen narcalen
4 months ago
Sorry a close below de WPP not above
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Ichimoku_Trader narcalen
4 months ago
I would not take this trade outside the kumo
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narcalen Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
So, you expect a retracement or a sideways till SSB, before de BO?
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Ichimoku_Trader narcalen
4 months ago
I'm indifferent
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narcalen Ichimoku_Trader
4 months ago
thanks, your coments are always apreciated .
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Ichimoku_Trader narcalen
4 months ago
;)
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narcalen
4 months ago
I think this trade could be a very good one, Let's see
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Ichimoku_Trader narcalen
4 months ago
nice
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BenL
4 months ago
Did you mention that you were doing a contest for training sessions??? Please mark me down as highly interested. Congrats to the winners.
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Ichimoku_Trader BenL
4 months ago
ok
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