FX:EURUSD   Euro Fx/U.S. Dollar
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8 months ago
Comment: The winners of the 2 training sessions are
@Imprimus + @NextgenDad + @3maximilian + @Virgotopia + @Flipa ..
Congratulations
8 months ago
Comment: I've noticed that you guys like H1 and M15 charts a lot. Am I correct?
Do you prefer them to H4 and D1 charts?
Give me your opinion please so I can adjust accordingly...
Thank you
xiiimik
8 months ago
Do you hold positions before major news like NFP? Do you agree that major news disrupt trends?
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Ichimoku_Trader xiiimik
8 months ago
These 2 slides will answer hopefully your questions:

NFP .. or not to be, that is the question!!!


NFP .. or not to be, that is the second question!!
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Ichimoku_Trader xiiimik
8 months ago
Open the slides please..
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xiiimik Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
I really like that you draw possible reversal zones. Simple and yet effective.
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Ichimoku_Trader xiiimik
8 months ago
;)
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xiiimik
8 months ago
What is the area of confluence (support and resistance)? How do you determine them?
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Ichimoku_Trader xiiimik
8 months ago
Wherever you have more than one type of S&R meeting each other that is a stronger area than a single S&R zone. 3 is better than 2 and 5 is better than 4 etc..
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suumacao PRO
8 months ago
Hi Ichi, When the price retrace close above Ts and confirm by candle stick pattern. That is good signal to buy? when aol on green and ks still flat
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Ichimoku_Trader suumacao
8 months ago
It depends on where that happens and what the market strength is
So I can not answer that without a specific example
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suumacao PRO Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
if the price closed between Ts and Ks, we will look for signal 4 to enter entry?
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Ichimoku_Trader suumacao
8 months ago
look below
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suumacao PRO Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Or any rule for enter which level signal to match ?
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Ichimoku_Trader suumacao
8 months ago
no simple rules for that
It depends on market strength and the depth of the retracement.
So if you have a case, please attach a chart and I'll give you the answer with the reasoning
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suumacao PRO Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Ichimoku "The PanOptic Trading Method" / Trading Trendlines...

This one mean it break the trend line or it break TS or KS, or have to break both same time?
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Ichimoku_Trader suumacao
8 months ago
This means that breaking TS is just like breaking a trendline
So you can trade that break
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suumacao PRO suumacao
8 months ago
Ichimoku "The PanOptic Trading Method" / Using CS...

This chart you mean when the number decrease it mean the trend will be less strength
One way, or another...

This chart how we count the number on the trend by using CS
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Ichimoku_Trader suumacao
8 months ago
look at the first slide, it teaches you how
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viran108
8 months ago
Good morning sir, hope you are well, on your charts the sell zone is above the cloud and buy zone is below the cloud, any reason? are these charts based on WPP? Could you please explain that in more details. Many thanks
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Ichimoku_Trader viran108
8 months ago
Good morning

I do not consider the cloud when I construct the buy sell zones as long as KS maintains the required direction. Undoubtedly, the kumo represents very strong S&R in certain situations but price breaches are common especially at the beginning of trends.

As for the basis of the charts, they are based on the PanOptic Method.

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viran108 Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Thanks
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Trader77
8 months ago
Hello, I have a question, would you analyze stocks too? like amazon
Thanks
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Ichimoku_Trader Trader77
8 months ago
off course. Even if I do not trade something, I will do analysis for it as a gift from me to the community. It is the ichi blue charts concept

Ichi Blue...


JUST ASK FOR IT ... Performance Record of Ichi Blue Charts...
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MC2016 PRO Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Many thanks for this. Very interesting and encouraging to see. I am aware of your pwn focus on currency pairs, but had been wondering about the applicability of your methods to standards stocks or ETFs etc - (I don't trade pairs at all). Are there any particular differences that apply to using the PanOptic method with different trading vehicles?
thanks. MC
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Ichimoku_Trader MC2016
8 months ago
Just watch out for the company fundamentals and add a volume perspective since it is measurable and you will be fine
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MC2016 PRO Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Great, thank you.
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Ichimoku_Trader Trader77
8 months ago
All you have to do is ask ;)
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Trader77 Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Thank you so much. Would you please analyze the Netflix and Amazon?
Thanks
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Ichimoku_Trader Trader77
8 months ago
NFLX + AMZN
right?
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Trader77 Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Yes Correct
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xiiimik
8 months ago
Have you tried to build an algorithm on your ideas, so it can execute trades automatically?
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Ichimoku_Trader xiiimik
8 months ago
Not interested..
The PanOptic is not a single strategy, it is a complex holistic approach to trading.
So you can not program that
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xiiimik Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Ok, do you use any aids from programs? Like trailing stops with specific algo.
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xiiimik xiiimik
8 months ago
Or do you think that some automation could help? If yes, what.
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Ichimoku_Trader xiiimik
8 months ago
I use some automation for pulling the trigger once I decide what needs to be done
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Ichimoku_Trader xiiimik
8 months ago
nope. Again you have choices and stops have to be dynamic to be efficient
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nheadmaster
8 months ago
What is dynamic vs static KS?
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Ichimoku_Trader nheadmaster
8 months ago
you have to study please...

PLEASE READ THIS TO TRADE THE "KS METHOD
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NeoRa
8 months ago
I have a few questions that I would like to clarify with you Ichi starting with;

1. Rule8 (Dynamic and static values): I understand that we use the dynamic entries on strong markets and static entries on weak markets.So in cases where the difference between the two (KS value for static and dynamic) is very small lets say 10 pips, will this rule still be applied the same way?

1a). For an entry to be defined as static or dynamic,does it need to touch the KS line and can we apply the static and dynamic values to the TS and SSB?

2.When KS get flat on the current TF it alerts us of a possible retracement on that TF,so part of Rule 5 guide 2 says " I know that when the KS goes flat,then we are in a retracement of one TF or another". Its a bit confusing because i understand that the KS reflects the market dynamics of the current TF. Correct me if I'm wrong sir.

3. Rule 5, guide 4 says "I can also expect the direction of the breakout depending on the last direction of the KS". Does this mean that you expect it go with the previous KS value or opposite to it?

4.Rule 15 (Strength based on CS gauge): I understand that you have explained the concept on how you can check for strength using CS. However I am a bit confused on drawing the horizontal line. Do we pick the pivots only or can we start counting from any point on the CS line?
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Ichimoku_Trader NeoRa
8 months ago
1. If the difference between the 2 is 10 pips that is a sign of low momentum which in turns tells us that the market is weak. So it would be best to take the Static value
1a. To build an entry strategy with the KS Method, you have to define it using KS exclusively.

2. When KS goes flat, it is possible that there is a retrace on the lower TF. In that case you will notice that price will continue the original direction before it reaches KS. The sign that the correction is on the current TF is to see a pivot made around KS before price continues on its way. So KS actually shows all corrections not only the current TF corrections.

3. What I mean with this is the original direction before going flat (so it is the original trend direction). Off course this is only a bias. The trade will be built on accepting a breakout both ways

4. You always count from the current position of CS.

If any of the answers is not clear please tell me and I'll try to clarify further
Good luck
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suumacao PRO Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
4) the number of strength. You mention count from current cs to ks?
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Ichimoku_Trader suumacao
8 months ago
no from current CS to the first candle that you hit
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NeoRa Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Thank you very much Ichi. I will ask more questions once everything has sinked in
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Ichimoku_Trader NeoRa
8 months ago
ok
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suumacao PRO Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Ok.got it.thanks
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NeoRa Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
So on #2 it means that if the correction is on the higher TF it will pass the KS on the current TF maybe up to the SSB
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Ichimoku_Trader NeoRa
8 months ago
exactly
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NeoRa Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
That makes sense now Ichi,thank you very much.
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Ichimoku_Trader NeoRa
8 months ago
very good
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Ichimoku_Trader NeoRa
8 months ago
But you will still see it on KS
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NeoRa Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
you mean correction for a HTF can make a pivot on the KS?
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Ichimoku_Trader NeoRa
8 months ago
No I mean that when it starts KS will be flat.
Also, the way that it reacts at KS can also be very revealing. But that is a long subject
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NeoRa Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
So for now should i take that it will pass the KS cause i am not sure about how it can reveal. I will dig deeper and once I think I found the answer to that I will check with you if I'm correct.Is it fair that way?
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Ichimoku_Trader NeoRa
8 months ago
ok
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NeoRa Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Thanks
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Dguaman
8 months ago
I prefer H1 and H4 because i trade daily, and i can do it with H1 and with H4 analysis i can see the main trend.
My opinion... thanks !
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Ichimoku_Trader Dguaman
7 months ago
good idea
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xiiimik
8 months ago
H4 and D1 are better.
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Ichimoku_Trader xiiimik
7 months ago
good choice
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narcalen
8 months ago
Who do you prefer, your mommy or your daddy?, for trading H1 and M15 and even H4
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Ichimoku_Trader narcalen
7 months ago
nice analogy
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KaQing
8 months ago
Hey can I invest in you? :)
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Ichimoku_Trader KaQing
7 months ago
hmmmm
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Ichimoku_Trader KaQing
7 months ago
I'd rather you invest in YOU ;)
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Imprimus
8 months ago
Hi Ichi,

I prefer trading on H1 chart.
And to see any reversal on H1, i goes down to M15 to see how price reacting.
And for potential targets, now i go to H4 and D1.

Thank you.
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xadiq Imprimus
8 months ago
I share a similar preference.
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Ichimoku_Trader Imprimus
7 months ago
interesting but you can do all that on one TF
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SteynTrade
8 months ago
I have been trading the Daily TF so the H1 charts are great to get good entry and target zones. Getting the trend is ok but trade management is were I seem to struggle. However, due to demands on my time I have been contemplating changing to trading the weekly TF and therefore the H4 charts would be great for trade management. All charts serve a purpose so I find it interesting to study them all while I am learning. Thanks again for all your effort. I don't contemplate doing the 15min thing soon.
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Ichimoku_Trader SteynTrade
7 months ago
I like that you are connecting the relevant TF together
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SteynTrade Ichimoku_Trader
7 months ago
Thanks, something I learnt from you.
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Ichimoku_Trader SteynTrade
7 months ago
Thanks
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TAJIR_B
8 months ago
H1 is really good, 15 min a lot of noisy. i would like to start following the 4 hr chart , as u dont have to be in front the pc screen .
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Ichimoku_Trader TAJIR_B
7 months ago
Your idea shows development
good job
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_chris_ PRO
8 months ago
I like the presentation of the H1 and H15 trading opportunities. Shorter term entry to sell positions as I am continually in front of the monitor so often anyway.
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Ichimoku_Trader _chris_
7 months ago
Think of moving up gradually
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TAJIR_B
8 months ago
A question Sir, i dint understand well the difference btw static and dynamic ks ? static is the last flat ks , dynamic the first turn after the a flat period ?
thanks for your patient
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Ichimoku_Trader TAJIR_B
8 months ago
snapshot
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TAJIR_B Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
so dynamic is a flat ks in action.
thanks
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Ichimoku_Trader TAJIR_B
7 months ago
dynamic is any value after the start of the new period
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TAJIR_B Ichimoku_Trader
7 months ago
thanks
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rist
8 months ago
I like the H4/H1 more , pocketing 50-200 pips is a lot easier than huslting that much 10-30 pips at a time
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Ichimoku_Trader rist
7 months ago
I agree and the long term results are much better both psychologically and financially
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fatkumo
8 months ago
EURUSD trading plan + LEARN ABOUT BUYING ZONES

I've realized that determining the 3 Different Zones are highly important.


How does one determine the 3 Zones?

ANYONE please feel free to answer this important question please. maybe i missed somthing
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NeoRa fatkumo
8 months ago
I am not 100% sure but it seems as if Ichi is using past CS pivots. Ichi please correct me if I'm wrong
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fatkumo NeoRa
8 months ago
Thank you, still waiting on Ichi!
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
8 months ago
Sorry for the delay guys.. Actually, i missed the Q

Anyway. I use Twaves, you can use the past period's high or low
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Its okay only grateful you're still with us...
TWAVES meaning? any slide or indicator/oscillator to show this?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
8 months ago
thank you
no slides about waves. Just use past period's high or low. almost the same result
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
7 months ago
Zone 3 is simply the area between SSB and dynamic CL. Dynamic CL is the high or the low that will change the direction of the KS
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Ichimoku_Trader Ichimoku_Trader
7 months ago
So now you have 2 choices:
1. daily H/L
2. Dynamic KS H/L
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
7 months ago
So i get the top of Zone 3, thats the moment current price made a new high, and also showed great CL strength, but why the Bottom of Zone 3? how was that level derived?
What makes Zone 2? and Zone 1?
Sorry for my ignorance master.
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
7 months ago
The zones are connected o the psychology of the traders of the 3 timeframes you see on ichi charts

EURUSD trading plan + LEARN ABOUT BUYING ZONES


An Example of trader "psychoanalysis"...
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
7 months ago
So at essence, the zones begin and end are where the price makes it's new Hi's since its a bullish trend right?
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
7 months ago
no .. the begin and end at ichi lines
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
7 months ago
eyes
OPENED
thank you
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
7 months ago
my pleasure
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NeoRa
8 months ago
Hi Ichi when determining the strength using CS,can we say that a trend strength is medium/weak when the CS is inside the KUMO even though we have more than 15 candles. I am asking this because we normally say that the trend strength is medium when price is inside the Kumo?
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Ichimoku_Trader NeoRa
8 months ago
CS inside he kumo has many meanings depending on the type of market we are talking about. So no general answer here
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NeoRa Ichimoku_Trader
8 months ago
Ok thanks Ichi
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MC2016 PRO
8 months ago
Thanks as ever for all your patience and help. Your PTM appears to offer a really effective holistic means of evaluating a market and making informed trades - a skill I'm sure many here are keen to learn. I have a few questions at this stage - apologies if you've already answered them elsewhere.

1) Market entry - you talk of entering at the static or dynamic KS levels, but on other occasions mention waiting for a close between the TS and KS. I presume ideally we wait for a close at the KS level but in a strongly trending market a close above this and below the TS can still be a good entry with the right signal. (This fits with what I've read about entries in the 'trading action zone' between the 10 and 30 MA in one approach to swing trading.)

2) Market entry - Level 2 Signal - to confirm in an uptrending market this signal would involve a close below the TS not above it?

3) Trade selection - for those more focused on trading stocks do you have any thoughts on screening to identify good candidates for trading (i.e. the start of strong trends etc). Would you recommend using moving average crossovers or something similar? Or would you recommend taking more time to properly assess a smaller number of options to find the trading opportunities some of them will envitably present.

4) PTM results - from what I've read and seen is it fair to say that around a quarter or so of PTM trading set-ups don't tend to get activated, but that of those that do the vast majority are successful? I appreciate that once a beginner gets to a good level of understanding it should be possible to quickly adjust a trade even if it doesn't happen as originally envisaged. Just trying to get a feel for the what to expect with putting PTM into real life situations.

thanks,
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Ichimoku_Trader MC2016
8 months ago
Thanks

First of all, you have to understand the difference between the KS Method and The PanOptic Method.
I designed the KS method as a means for traders who are not interested in learning a lot about the market and/or who do not have the time to trade. I tried to integrate into it as much of what needs to be done to be successful as possible without complexity. For example, follow the KS. Such a simple concept that is so easy to follow but so powerful and safe. It really is amazing. Also many other aspects were integrated into the KS Method to achieve my goal as stated above. So the trader does not have to know anything or follow anyone. Just apply the simple method and you will be successful. That is the KS Method.
The PanOptic Method is a much more complex system that addresses everything in the market that requires a trader's attention from market structure to trade performance management.
Once you understand that .. now I will answer your question in that context

1. The entry in the KS Method is at static or dynamic KS levels. nice and simple. In the PanOptic, it is different. there are zones related to trader psychology, there are signals related to market performance etc...

2. If you are in an up-trending market, you need to only buy. That means the signal must be ABOVE TS

3. Trade selection depends on the strategies you like to trade. So for some people they like to trade after a deep retrace, some like to trade after a range breakout, others after a pattern breakout, etc... So depending on your favorite strategy, you pick our trades. For me, I like to trade a single pair (although I trade more than that). So when I built the PanOptic, I made sure that you can use it in every market state that you can think of. That way I can trade one pair and not be idle.

4. The success rate of the PanOptic Method is phenomenal due to many reasons:
1. The win rate is unbelievable
2. The trade entry rate is unthinkable
3. The percentage of the move you can gain is not comparable to anything I know
4. The RR is fascinating
5. I can go on and on....
Please don't think that I am trying to brag .. I am just telling you things as I see them.
Now please note that I have not yet disclosed the PanOptic. That is why I try to only publish trades within the limits of what I have taught. There are ways for entries and exits that I have not mentioned. They were designed so as to make sure that you do not miss any market move. So sometimes we miss trades that I publish not because the system can not get us into them but because the decision making to enter them is too complex and very dynamic and Both issues don't agree with publishing

I hope I answered you to your satisfaction
Good luck

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MC2016 PRO Ichimoku_Trader
7 months ago
Thanks very much for such a comprehensive answer - really helpful. Useful particularly to understand the difference between the KS method and the PanOptic method. Sounds like the KS method is the one to try and master first! Being fairly new to trading I find one of the challenges is knowing where to focus and what strategy to use; another is having the patience to wait for the right entry! For those like me grappling with such difficulties you throw a real lifeline of support in what can be choppy shark-infested waters! Much appreciated - thanks again. MC
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Ichimoku_Trader MC2016
7 months ago
The KS method will resolve both your problems and will prepare you for the move up to the PanOptic
Good luck
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BenL
7 months ago
Personally If I had to choose between the 2 I'd say h1 and m15 charts. Though when you update the H4 frequently its also very helpful. Blog sounds pretty awesome and you got me to join Twitter which I never thought I would do
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Ichimoku_Trader BenL
7 months ago
I'm very happy that you like the blog idea. It is still in the works but I'm hoping to have a really good communication platform there where I can expand on my ideas of the PanOptic Method.
I'm also happy that you joined twitter.

As for the TF. Think of going larger
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BenL Ichimoku_Trader
7 months ago
I have been able to apply what you've taught on lower time frames successfully like 1 hour. Thank you. I feel really comfortable looking for trades with this method. Out of curiosity, are you moving to higher time frames out of personal time constraints or as a means of larger pip gains per trade or another reason?
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Ichimoku_Trader BenL
7 months ago
I'm glad to hear about your success

I'm not moving to higher TF, but on a weekly basis I start by posting my weekly trade setups on H4
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jkanani27
7 months ago
after news if MARKET goes down lots of points and then after some hours my system give sell signal.. at there time mind get 2 question
1. market is already to falled now its time to pullback
2. market is in down trade so i i have to go short ..

main questions is after news when market will stable .. to recognize signals properly
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Ichimoku_Trader jkanani27
7 months ago
It depends on the news. If it is very important news, it will affect the market pre and post the news and the immediate effect will last for hours.
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fatkumo
7 months ago
Your methods all seem to have a different Risk and Reward levels.
Is there one you favor over the other?
Can you list by any chance the ones you favor over the other?
Thank You master
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Ichimoku_Trader fatkumo
7 months ago
The larger the reward the less the risk .. that's my favorite
My least favorite is 1 to 1
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fatkumo Ichimoku_Trader
7 months ago
gotcha Thanks
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