hi :_) the 1618 max d point for this butterfly is at 1.09616 so this one is not valid. the second pattern dont exist. Not saying it cannot bouce here, but if it does it will not be in relation with this patterns
I do not want to argue with you. Read the good books. That is why people loosing money in this business. They read wrong definitions. You can come up with thousands of names. This pattern works more than 70 % of the time.