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timwest
Feb 5, 2016 8:05 PM

Gut check - Risk OFF Ratio Spiking Long

TLT/HYGNASDAQ

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If you watch the S&P500 or invest in equities, you often want to know what the general trend in the market is and there is one very simple ratio you can watch that alerts you to when the conditions are dangerous. Oddly, the way the market works, however, is that once everyone has sold (or taken enough risk off of the table), the market can then find a bottom.

So, it is that old adage, that it is darkest before dawn, but it is also darkest before it is "pitch black". Meaning to talk on both sides of the fence here because this is the kind of setup where we could accelerate down and if we do, I don't see what is going to stop us at this point.

Investors are moving OUT of HYG (High Yield Bonds) and INTO the safe haven of US Gov't Bonds (TLT - 20 Years Gov't Bonds). This "RISK OFF" ratio is easy to plot and easy to track. I don't know the absolute levels that triggers a specific buy signal, but we are at TERROR levels NOT SEEN SINCE 2009 in the midst of financial market collapse - banks collapsing, brokers and leveraged traders getting wiped out (Bear Stearns, Lehman, AIG, etc).

So, tell me what you think? Are you in enough cash to "sleep at night" or are you still holding "margin long".

Tim

1102 SPX500 3:05PM EST Friday, Feb 5, 2016

Comment

1.72 last - Plenty of fear displaying itself with talks of negative rates now in the US too.
Comments
SpreadEagle71
I don't own any stocks. I trade weekly options-mostly credit spreads and iron condors. Lately, I find it hard to find good trades even in the bigger indicies like spx500, nas100, or iux (russell 2k). There's a weird "hush" on the market. It feels like we are poised on the edge, ready for a plunge.
I only see gold and TLT (as you said) in an up trend.
Love the ideas. Keep em coming. :)
A-shot
In cash for some time now - for the same reason, gut feeling. I went out before the rally in advance to the drop, but now my account wins over the minus in indices
cooney_s
Hey Tim, Love hearing your insight, how about an update. Thanks!
IvanLabrie
This was spot on...
BuySellBuySell
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
timwest
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timwest
I can't see the dates along the bottom, but the bottom on the far left is 2008-2009 where the ratio got up to 1.80 but only 1 months versus 3 months peaking at 1.75. We are right at 1.67 today versus 1.00 and 1.10 lows in the last decade.
IvanLabrie
So, not quite at the bottom yet...Monday can be terrible.
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