I have no idea where bottom is, however based on probabilities and strong support my best estimate for accumulation is 14k, even now I have no issue accumulating for long term....global macro is not good, war, recession, inflation so yes we can go lower, however just like the covid crash we should bounce hard and I simply see all this negativity as a shopping opportunity for the long term. Peace out, good luck all.....just an idea for entertainment purposes only.