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ZCL to BTCP Has Amazing Potential

BITTREX:ZCLBTC   Zclassic / Bitcoin
This is more about just writing out some thoughts than technical analysis . This is about the Z Classic Fork /Migration

In a new twist to bitcoin             forks, Z Classic will do something new called Bitcoin             Private (BTCP). This is how it will work:


More details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ZClassic/comments/7mg5je/zcl_btcp_faq/

There is no premine or other garbage scheme. It's very much community driven. The interesting thing about this coin is that they are essentially adding Z cash zk-snarks shielding technology to bitcoin             and improving the distribution. At the same time, they are rebranding to Bitcoin             Private, which is very clever.

Most bitcoin             forks have gained value. Even the crappy ones. I know I know.. Not another fork. But this fork has tremendous potential and ultimately I see it more likely that it has a higher market cap then Bitcoin             Gold             .

Bitcoin             Golds market cap is $4 billion. It was a premine that really didn't have much support at the time and didn't offer anything that special. So far just from gauging the community, it seems like there is a lot of support for this coin.

So in 2-3 months I could see BTCP having at least a 3 billion market cap. That would put the coin at $160. A $6 billion cap wouldn't be out of the question. So $300+ which would 10x from todays             $30 price. I just do not see this staying this low for long.

As far as technical analysis goes, what we see is that ZCL             makes a move up, then consolidates then shoots up. As long as it keeps doing that, I'll keep buying. At some point it will shoot off then people will take profits, but doesn't seem like there is much selling, which signals that people expect it to go much higher.

To my knowledge, Bittrex hasn't announced support for it, but they are the major exchange the carries ZCL             if they announce fork support, ZCL             will likely take off. So even though its up big from just a few days ago, I think it will continue climbing as more people learn about it. If it corrects, I will add to my position.

Anyway, like any crypto, there is big risk but I think the reward is high enough to take a shot at it despite its increased valuation the past few days. Wish I was paying attention earlier.

Comment: I sure hope someone else decided to take a look at this and bought the no brainer of holidays. 300% since I posted it. I still think it will go higher.
Comment: If you entered at consolidation you are up 500%. But we broke the long secondary consolidation so there is a good chance ZCL will continue to work its way up. The hard fork has not been announced on Bittrex left and that should cause some FOMO buyers. The closer it gets to the fork, the more it will rise, so I will be holding for a few more weeks. I will probably sell some of my position before the fork but also will keep some of it for the long term.
Comment: BTCP developers want to do more testing. They will announce a date in coming weeks but it will be 4 weeks before the fork. So expect fork in late February or early March. Price could go sideways for awhile or lower if bitcoin goes down
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Tough to buy alts when BTC is in a downtrend but patience pays off. There is still 2 weeks before the fork. This last move was huge so it could pull back here, but I still see more upside. I will scale out between 2-21 and 2-25 and might keep a small portion in case it just keeps going up.
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7 Days left before the fork. This last big move retraced to 61.8% of the move and tested the bear flag breakout. As you can see it formed a pin bar, so I consider this a decent late entry for a very short term trade, but please do your own research. This is not trading advice, but just an observation.

I believe in the next 3-5 days we'll see one more move up. However, if bitcoin goes down, then who knows what alts will do.

We are also still officially waiting for bittrex to announce that they will support the fork. They did this 8 days before the NXT fork and only 2 days before the BTG fork, hoping it happens soon. This has a good chance of causing another big impulsive move up IF they announce it. I would be really surprised if they didn't.

If not, then you can go to https://zclassic.org and download their wallet if you want to hold for the fork to get your BTCP.
Comment: Just 2 days left and ZCL has been heading lower. Some of this has to do with Bittrex not announcing they are supporting the fork. I think we are about to get some serious volatility and with low supply this can move up or down big time. You can see how whales will get selling started and then buy it up very quickly.

So, I will continue to be patient. Here is my plan.

1. If Bittrex supports the fork and price goes up, I'll probably sell some or part of it within 12-24 hours.
2. If they don't support the fork and price goes down, then I will just move it to a wallet and be patient.
3. If they support the fork and price goes down like a sell the news then I will just hold it in bittrex.

I was expecting they would announce sooner and we'd get one more big run up, but I'm confident that at some point in the next 4-6 weeks that BTCP will be a much higher price so I will not sell at these levels. DYOR though.
Comment: At this point bittrex doesn't appear to be supporting the fork. I still had some coins and added at these low prices and will move coins to my wallet for the fork. Do not leave coins on Bittrex unless they announce very quickly. Need to get coins to a wallet to get the BTCP.

It's my belief that BTCP will end up with a market cap between BTG and BCH. And without exchange support, a large amount of potential supply will never be claimed. So that will make it easier for price to rise. I will hold for higher prices. But it's much like an ICO, where it could take 6 weeks before it gets listed on a lot of exchanges. Prices could still drop as BTC holders just sell their forked coins, so I will be patient on this one.

IN a few days after the snapshot, pryou will be able to download the BTCP wallet and import your private keys to that wallet and it will give you your BTCP. The ZCL will become an abandoned chain so I suspect ZCL's price to be under $5 in a few days, so I won't even bother trying to sell it. I will just hold to see if someone picks it up or more likely it gets used for another fork at some point.
Comment: Happy Snapshot Day!

At the last moment, Bittrex had wallet issues with ZCL so they will credit ZCL holders with BTCP. But they will not be listing BTCP for trading. You'll have to use Kucoin and a few other smaller exchanges. They have applied to Binance as well.

I moved all my ZCL to my wallet as I think it will be a delay before bittrex folks get their BTCP. I may choose to sell some BTCP if it spikes in the first few days. If not I will actually look to buy some and hold the rest.

ZCL will plummet after the snapshot, which will take place around 5pm UTC time or 12 EST. You have to wait for the block to complete and I usually wait another block. But ZCL will be practically worthless so I expect it to drop to under $5 very quickly. So if I can't get my ZCL to an exchange before price falls below $5, I may just hold onto it and wait to see if it gets used in the future for another hard fork. Any developer can also pick it up and start working on it and I see that being likely since there would be good money in it for the right individuals.
hi, thanks for your sharing. one question, why would you sell before the fork ? don't you want to get BTCP from ZCL ?
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rzmb44 diegoalonso
@diegoalonso, Just based on past fork behavior. Usually the forked coin starts to slowly sell down right before the fork. A lot of traders are just riding the move up and don't care about the forked coin coming.

Then after the fork, the coin getting forked (ZCL) will usually sell off very quickly. You may not be able to get out of ZCL if the exchange stops trading. The drop usually happens fast. The forked coin (BTCP) is more likely to sell off initially because BTC holders will also get 1 BTCP and many of these holders don't care about the BTCP so they will just sell it like they sell every forked coin.

If you like the coin long term, then nothing wrong with just holding BTCP and then selling ZCL as soon as you can. But I plan to sell most of my position before the fork date. I will keep a portion just to have a small position.

Keep in mind this is just my strategy and I could be wrong. Past results don't indicate future behavior. But I'm selling before the fork because I don't want to risk a sell off where I can't get out of ZCL fast enough. I believe I will be able to buy back more BTCP in weeks following the fork. If it goes up too fast and I miss out, then I'll just move on and wait for a future pullback.

Look at NXT/BTC chart. It forked on 12-25 but its high was 12-23. It fell off a cliff after the fork.
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THANKS
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Does coinexchange support the fork
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rzmb44 jannielew
@jannielew, I don't know yet. Since its till probably 2-3 weeks away, I don't think any exchange has announced support just yet. But there have been much smaller forks that have had exchange support and I would consider this to be a big fork much like Bitcoin Cash. Bittrex had ZCL wallet in maintenance yesterday so I am expecting an announcement from them soon and then other exchanges. They support the NXT fork last month so I'd be shocked if they didn't support this fork.
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so after the migration ZCL will cease to exist or will it continue to exist along with BTCP ?
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Good call. Well, I wish I'd known about this a few weeks back haha! Yep, it has blown up in 3 weeks (50x!).
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has the fork already happened?
will it continue to rise? The RSI is already so high..
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rzmb44 BoltyCurry
@BoltyCurry,

The fork will happen at the end of January.

It was overbought short term but its already pulling back. It's very difficult to say when to buy. Its was over $100 and down to around $80 now. It can get to $150 in a day. It can pull back to $50. You can try buying the 50% retrace of the move around 500,000 sats or just average in.

Let me stress, this is still a very high risk trade. Do your own research. I just thought it looked like an interesting enough fundamental investment of the short to medium term.

Also, watch bitcoin's price. If it falls then all alt coins can fall even more.
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Where do i need to put my coins in zcl wallet or any exchang to receive BTCP?
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