Triggernometry aka "Trig identities on charts??????....rekt"
Posting this mostly so I can find it later, and some thoughts/guidance from actual mathemagicians would be wonderful :-) . these types of thoughts are constantly dancing around my unmedicated adhd brain like "too many notes" all the time...coupled with a math career cut short right at trig and i'm just confuuuuuused but intrigued and would love to talk to other wannabe/real nerds about this stuff!
Chart is scaled 100:1 (though I've also played with scaling / squaring the chart to a particular move, so that it looks geometrically 1:1...like a square. yes the ruler and the protractor come out. i always think of the resulting circle as a lens)
Sine, cosine, and tangent of unit circle. Not sure if changing the quadrant of the circle matters. or if the quadrant you place the identities in should depend on the direction you're projecting the move in (you could draw them in all four if you wanted?) But placement does matter, obvi. Just like with fib extensions. Where you're deriving from, and where you're placing them. I'm sure there are other identities that work...but what do they mean?
Sine: Price (Opposite aka y axis/Hypotenuse)
Cosine: Time (Adjacent aka x axis/Hypotenuse)
Tangent: Price of squared circle (as i understand it ... the square in general is total possibilities...theoretical limit...IIRC it was 3BlueBrown on youtube who described the square, in general, as probability? Least-squares? IDK. And then the circle, according to this framework, would be the actual limit/resistance/boundary of the move?) So the difference between the square and the circle is theoretical vs actual? Something something calculus????
I've also played with spirals of 90 degrees and 0 degrees (which would be the limits of sine and cosine aka price and time? of the circle?) but with multiples and factors of the unit circle...so, .707, .314, .577...some phi ratios as well. and phi multiples and square roots seem to work too.
So I'm wondering in what sense angles and their trig identities ...and what they represent which is speed? are the same thing as, just a different translation/vibration of, smaller / bigger circles. the max time/price change (aka at 0 and 90 degrees) in a .707 circle, for example, would mean the same thing as sine and cosine of ... 63 degrees? (90 x .707) depending on placement. because circle harmonics are just shorter and longer time cycles/fractals? I literally just figured out what radians are so be nice to me :-)
Gurus
Michael S. Jenkins (a few videos on youtube) is my favorite, and he is inspired by Gann who I need to read more of. Jenkins' idea (possibly Gann as well?) is that time=price. Lots of examples of, say, price increasing by $1000 over 1000 days (or whatever the time unit is...you have to find it).
Larry Pesavento
Jim Bartelloni
CandleboxAI and GannJourneyman on twitter but I don't really understand their charts yet
Chart is scaled 100:1 (though I've also played with scaling / squaring the chart to a particular move, so that it looks geometrically 1:1...like a square. yes the ruler and the protractor come out. i always think of the resulting circle as a lens)
Sine, cosine, and tangent of unit circle. Not sure if changing the quadrant of the circle matters. or if the quadrant you place the identities in should depend on the direction you're projecting the move in (you could draw them in all four if you wanted?) But placement does matter, obvi. Just like with fib extensions. Where you're deriving from, and where you're placing them. I'm sure there are other identities that work...but what do they mean?
Sine: Price (Opposite aka y axis/Hypotenuse)
Cosine: Time (Adjacent aka x axis/Hypotenuse)
Tangent: Price of squared circle (as i understand it ... the square in general is total possibilities...theoretical limit...IIRC it was 3BlueBrown on youtube who described the square, in general, as probability? Least-squares? IDK. And then the circle, according to this framework, would be the actual limit/resistance/boundary of the move?) So the difference between the square and the circle is theoretical vs actual? Something something calculus????
I've also played with spirals of 90 degrees and 0 degrees (which would be the limits of sine and cosine aka price and time? of the circle?) but with multiples and factors of the unit circle...so, .707, .314, .577...some phi ratios as well. and phi multiples and square roots seem to work too.
So I'm wondering in what sense angles and their trig identities ...and what they represent which is speed? are the same thing as, just a different translation/vibration of, smaller / bigger circles. the max time/price change (aka at 0 and 90 degrees) in a .707 circle, for example, would mean the same thing as sine and cosine of ... 63 degrees? (90 x .707) depending on placement. because circle harmonics are just shorter and longer time cycles/fractals? I literally just figured out what radians are so be nice to me :-)
Gurus
Michael S. Jenkins (a few videos on youtube) is my favorite, and he is inspired by Gann who I need to read more of. Jenkins' idea (possibly Gann as well?) is that time=price. Lots of examples of, say, price increasing by $1000 over 1000 days (or whatever the time unit is...you have to find it).
Larry Pesavento
Jim Bartelloni
CandleboxAI and GannJourneyman on twitter but I don't really understand their charts yet
it's not cosecant, right?
learning
brain too big for these details :joy: :weary: